lookin' for crit. on my pin-up good or bad. have crappy scanner ao colors are off, and also not lined-up well. i've been working on pin-up for along time its like i cant "see" them anymore...need fresh eyes....if you like i have more. any feed-back welcome
your faces are boring... not strikingly beautiful, and a little too "emotive" and "cartoony" for most folk's pinup... But that's ok, and I recognize it as an issue of your style, which is quite polished with decent attention to proportion...You're very fantasy-focused... I would try switching to realism and composing scenes, because these few you've posted are initially interesting, but ultimately boring.
your faces are boring... not strikingly beautiful, and a little too "emotive" and "cartoony" for most folk's pinup... But that's ok, and I recognize it as an issue of your style, which is quite polished with decent attention to proportion...
You're very fantasy-focused... I would try switching to realism and composing scenes, because these few you've posted are initially interesting, but ultimately boring.
>>5101 >>5113 Man thank you so much for your feed back. I really mean that. I know i missin' something. I'm tryin' to improve, and never once did i think i was anywhere close to where i want (or need to be). The style is why they are like that, however, i don't think it works and i needed feedback. I wanted to "throw myself to the lions." Thanks for being my lion. Look for more from me, i might finally get those faces right someday soon.
>>5121that doesn't sound too committed... why not just draw from reference until you've got it down?
>>5121
that doesn't sound too committed... why not just draw from reference until you've got it down?
>>5101 >>5138 im very dedicated just very busy. Can't stress how rough this sketch is. However, face: better? worse? more of the same?
>>5101 >>5162
i'm so sorry... NSFW
ASSCHEEKS, DO YOU HAVE THEM?
What? what is that mean?? I'm sorry bro, i'm bad at english... "Adult is OK!" ... I should read it befor posting, lol...Critic is waited, and another picture is in progress...
What? what is that mean?? I'm sorry bro, i'm bad at english...
"Adult is OK!" ... I should read it befor posting, lol...Critic is waited, and another picture is in progress...
He probably means that her buttcheeks aren't showing. Usually you can see a hint of their existance between the legs. I think it's good. Especially the background, but I think you should either make your lineart all one color and have thinner lines, or just get rid of the lineart all together.
eww i hatez hentai
lol, forgot that...I think, that is my problem...The thick line art...Will get rid that stupid manner
lol, forgot that...
I think, that is my problem...The thick line art...Will get rid that stupid manner
Like said before, the lines could use some whittling down imo. Also, the hand with the extended finger looks a bit wonky, and the knees could use a bit more definition. Her left upper arm also looks like it bends a bit. The neck seems a bit off as well, but I suck balls at that shit, so I dunno if I could help much there, or if I even have a right to point it out.Overall though, it looks good, and your coloring is nice, if not needing a few harder edged shadows.
Like said before, the lines could use some whittling down imo. Also, the hand with the extended finger looks a bit wonky, and the knees could use a bit more definition. Her left upper arm also looks like it bends a bit. The neck seems a bit off as well, but I suck balls at that shit, so I dunno if I could help much there, or if I even have a right to point it out.
Overall though, it looks good, and your coloring is nice, if not needing a few harder edged shadows.
haha, yeah. It is shit indeed...From this point, i know that i am sucks at drawing "anatomy", yet i know it always...I draw not based on real anatomy, just by shit feeling... Now i know, i must learn it well...Thanks everyone, i done for this one...Will try to submit another one, so... prepare to kill me...
haha, yeah. It is shit indeed...
From this point, i know that i am sucks at drawing "anatomy", yet i know it always...I draw not based on real anatomy, just by shit feeling... Now i know, i must learn it well...
Thanks everyone, i done for this one...Will try to submit another one, so... prepare to kill me...
Okay, here's the thing, I need a background, and i don't know what to draw...any suggestions?
An alley, a bar...in da club.You have any character info? That'd be useful in determining a cohesive setting to put her in.
An alley, a bar...in da club.
You have any character info? That'd be useful in determining a cohesive setting to put her in.
PROTIP: pants zippers are normally hidden!
Circus alleyway
hm, i guess an alley is good...will try it out on the weekend maybe, too much work at school this week...>_<>>5210Don't really have any character info...i just came up with this saying to myself "i want to draw a woman with a hat" lol>>5211I see, thanks. Will fix it.
hm, i guess an alley is good...will try it out on the weekend maybe, too much work at school this week...>_<
>>5210Don't really have any character info...i just came up with this saying to myself "i want to draw a woman with a hat" lol
>>5211I see, thanks. Will fix it.
>>5222Cool, post results here.
Hay guys. I know that I really suck ass, but that's why I'm asking for halp.I'm posting the drawing in a state in which I can change it easily, so if you have any pointers please respond and I'll try some fixes/redraws.Not looking for butt-pats,Thanks.
Hay guys. I know that I really suck ass, but that's why I'm asking for halp.
I'm posting the drawing in a state in which I can change it easily, so if you have any pointers please respond and I'll try some fixes/redraws.
Not looking for butt-pats,Thanks.
>>5235lol yes. I'll admit I'm a derivative shit. I've been drawing for only two years, so I'm kinda yet to have developed my own style. Hopefully I'll just be able to make shit I draw look decent, while I try to figure out how to make it unique.
Right. I believe I've sage'd my thread to a state of nonbumpage, so I'll just dump old shit of my trying to change up my style.
>>5241
>>5242
>>5244AN HERO!Sorry, it just kinda looked like it.
>>5244AN HERO!
Sorry, it just kinda looked like it.
>>5252But it is. Zetsubou Sensei.btw, I lost my ipod, you haven't happened to see it, no?
>>5252But it is. Zetsubou Sensei.
btw, I lost my ipod, you haven't happened to see it, no?
>>5208 Pro work but too much blue.... cant tell where her hair ends and where the blouse starts...
filters...
do we try to halp?
this isn't art, it's a medley of photoshop filters.
Any suggestions in how I can improve?
With time and practice. THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTS.Also don't go in hard for the animu, draw equally of everything, even shit you don't particularly like.
Start with stick/bubble ppls, look at drawings you like and dissect why which lines are where, round off your studies with anatomy study. Place more or less emphasis on your study of anatomy relative to how big you want your character's heads to be. (simplified anatomy usually equates to bigger heads)Draw still life, as is will train your ability to capture form and break complex objects down into simpler shapes, thus improving your ability to block out poses.Try to look objectively at your drawings, and see what is wrong with them. You won't improve if you think everything you draw is the shit.
Start with stick/bubble ppls, look at drawings you like and dissect why which lines are where, round off your studies with anatomy study. Place more or less emphasis on your study of anatomy relative to how big you want your character's heads to be. (simplified anatomy usually equates to bigger heads)
Draw still life, as is will train your ability to capture form and break complex objects down into simpler shapes, thus improving your ability to block out poses.
Try to look objectively at your drawings, and see what is wrong with them. You won't improve if you think everything you draw is the shit.
I did this as a quick draw from a reference.You can give crit, but what I'm actually looking for are art exercises. I've just started drawing again after about 4 years of not drawing at all and I need help. I'm scheduled for a life drawing course in two weeks which should help.. but anyone know of any good exercises to do at home?I know of contour drawing an such.. anything else? Specifically something that will help me grasp anatomy better.
I did this as a quick draw from a reference.
You can give crit, but what I'm actually looking for are art exercises. I've just started drawing again after about 4 years of not drawing at all and I need help. I'm scheduled for a life drawing course in two weeks which should help.. but anyone know of any good exercises to do at home?I know of contour drawing an such.. anything else? Specifically something that will help me grasp anatomy better.
Show me your hands.Hands are good way to test artists anatomy skill.
Show me your hands.
Hands are good way to test artists anatomy skill.
I would start working on your value. Value is, in subjective terms, how light or dark something is, or rather where light is being blocked.Notice how her hair is all one value. This is not true to life, because hair usually has tons of values in it. Also look at her face. It is left white, which creates a nasty negative space, and then you have a little shadow on the left side of her face. You have this stark contrast of light and dark on her face that looks quite freaky. You need to learn how to subtley change from shadow into light.Finally, her lips are outlined, definitly not realistic. Especially going into a life drawing class, start learning how to draw from just value and lose the lines. There are no actual lines in real life, just lines created by edge.So, value, value, value!
I would start working on your value. Value is, in subjective terms, how light or dark something is, or rather where light is being blocked.
Notice how her hair is all one value. This is not true to life, because hair usually has tons of values in it. Also look at her face. It is left white, which creates a nasty negative space, and then you have a little shadow on the left side of her face. You have this stark contrast of light and dark on her face that looks quite freaky. You need to learn how to subtley change from shadow into light.
Finally, her lips are outlined, definitly not realistic. Especially going into a life drawing class, start learning how to draw from just value and lose the lines. There are no actual lines in real life, just lines created by edge.
So, value, value, value!
>>4951Thank you. The problem with the pic is that the referenced had a very, very bright flash (studio picture). So most of the fast was very brightly lit, near contourless.But, I will work on my value and losing the out-of-place outlines. :3
>>4952Er I meant most of the face.
>>4946 heres some good practice
>>4952 Ah, yes. I understand. Sometimes I have to deal with those kinds of pics when I make a portrait of someone. I would much rather use a family photo than some professional photographer's, because the studio photos bleach out all the value of face.
>>4956Agreed. I just wanted to do a quick sketch in a new program I got so I just grabbed a magazine and did this. I also have difficulty with just use black and white, it's much easier to do pure value with greyscale (like pencils) or with colour. Oh well, next time ^^;
maybe this would be good practice
is it good?
drawing from give or take a few weeks ago. I'm new to wakachan, can you tell me about this board? :3
Nice coloring good pose way to much detail in the folds. Simplify them a bit.Wakachan is an imageboard that is slightly less of an ass to new comers than 4chan.
Nice coloring good pose way to much detail in the folds. Simplify them a bit.
Wakachan is an imageboard that is slightly less of an ass to new comers than 4chan.
So basically 4chan, but instead of made with hate, it's made with love. xD... I tried less detail, didn't like it that much. certain areas should have less wrinkles, though, i'm sure, but the drawing (unfinished) after this one took care of that problem.
hrm... after looking at it a while I think its the darkness and thickness of the fold lines that are making it look off. Hold on a minute while I stick it in photoshop and give it a whirl..
Here is the initial results I think it help quite a bit.
and I throw a gradient bg on it just to see what it would look like without all the white.
>>5169Looks pretty good. I still think the folds are over-accentuated. The face looks cool though.
>>5183The folds are over accented I however did the recolor from the .jpg and not the original art.(I'm just a random photoshop guru and not the op.)
>>5183
The folds are over accented I however did the recolor from the .jpg and not the original art.(I'm just a random photoshop guru and not the op.)
>>5191Yeah, you did a pretty sweet job of retouching it.
Putting arrows that way into the quiver is just asking for cut fingers.And yes, lots of unnecessary folds.It looks like her jacket would be wet or something.Hands look bit awkward.
Here is my first drawing of Kagome I've just recently finished and yes that is a whole sacred jewel around her neck. ^_^
>>5066give me the link to your DA
DA?
Deviant Art
ah, I dont know much about inuyasha but I have seen the character around in the internet. and this is a really good drawing compared to the others I have seen. your coloring is something I could praise for quite some time. considering that it was hand colored. hm... it looks like watercolors... although it also somewhat looks like waterbased pencils. ^^the hips are the main thing that seem odd to me, and I agree that they have to be wider, maybe not as much as the shoulders, but still, wider. and the only thing that I see wrong with the arms is that the right one seems to be longer because the elbow was drawn significantly lower than the elbow on the left hand. other than that the arms are quite well done.I dont much like the color of the tanktop, lime green clothing has never appealed to me, but Im not sure what kind of clothing Kagome is used to wearing so I wont even go too deep into that. ^^ inuyasha is an old series after all, and anime characters in old series always wear the craziest things.
ah, I dont know much about inuyasha but I have seen the character around in the internet. and this is a really good drawing compared to the others I have seen. your coloring is something I could praise for quite some time. considering that it was hand colored. hm... it looks like watercolors... although it also somewhat looks like waterbased pencils. ^^
the hips are the main thing that seem odd to me, and I agree that they have to be wider, maybe not as much as the shoulders, but still, wider. and the only thing that I see wrong with the arms is that the right one seems to be longer because the elbow was drawn significantly lower than the elbow on the left hand. other than that the arms are quite well done.
I dont much like the color of the tanktop, lime green clothing has never appealed to me, but Im not sure what kind of clothing Kagome is used to wearing so I wont even go too deep into that. ^^ inuyasha is an old series after all, and anime characters in old series always wear the craziest things.
James Bender will you flip out on this guy to? >>5078
>>5063>The original does look much better than the scan of a color copy so naturally some of the elements like the jewel's glow would look a bit off.Fair enough.>However I get the feeling your suggestion that the glow around her is unnatural is more of a personal preference rather than attempting to be constructive and explain why you think it looks unnatural.I wasn't trying to be nasty. The glow looks unnatural. Perhaps it IS from an odd scan problem, but it DOES look strange. There are random dark dots all around it and the outermost part of the glow is darkly outlined instead of dispersing naturally.>Her hands are out of frame because she's opening two sliding doors so I don't see the worth in declaring it unprofessional Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>5063
>The original does look much better than the scan of a color copy so naturally some of the elements like the jewel's glow would look a bit off.
Fair enough.
>However I get the feeling your suggestion that the glow around her is unnatural is more of a personal preference rather than attempting to be constructive and explain why you think it looks unnatural.
I wasn't trying to be nasty. The glow looks unnatural. Perhaps it IS from an odd scan problem, but it DOES look strange. There are random dark dots all around it and the outermost part of the glow is darkly outlined instead of dispersing naturally.
>Her hands are out of frame because she's opening two sliding doors so I don't see the worth in declaring it unprofessional
Sliding doors? they don't look like sliding doors, so yes, it looks like you just b-sed your way out of drawing hands.I like the coloring but the whole thing overall looks very stiff and unnatural.Keep practicing maybe?
Sliding doors? they don't look like sliding doors, so yes, it looks like you just b-sed your way out of drawing hands.
I like the coloring but the whole thing overall looks very stiff and unnatural.
Keep practicing maybe?
Oh wow... iichan really is different.. All he got on 4chan was flames. But this is a copy, isn't it?Anyway, her right eye is too far out to the side, her torso has an odd shape, and the hips and belt are flat as a paper. You have to make the lines go around the body and define it. Her hips are too narrow for a girl too.Like 5055 says, the colors are quite horrible. Red, green and pink do not match. The shading on her arms make them look flat as well, and they are a bit too thin, especially her right lower arm.Use photo reference for the body next time, manga reference for the face, if you have to.
All right first off everyone on 4chan is an ass me included. Second This a post to James Bender I don't think you tried too but you came off as a 13 year old kid wanting praise for an image instead of valid criticism and when you got criticized you felt the need to lash out.Now on to my critique of the drawing;The coloring is well executed but the colors where poorly chosen, Find a website with a color wheel and find out a little about color theory.the head and shoulders are fine as well as the chest and stomach. The hips are VERY thin, She would have to have her pelvis bones broken to be that thin.Her arms are to short, Its a very typical problem with drawings thats not readably apparent, it just gives you the feeling that something is off but you can't quite put you finger on it. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
All right first off everyone on 4chan is an ass me included.
Second This a post to James Bender I don't think you tried too but you came off as a 13 year old kid wanting praise for an image instead of valid criticism and when you got criticized you felt the need to lash out.
Now on to my critique of the drawing;
The coloring is well executed but the colors where poorly chosen, Find a website with a color wheel and find out a little about color theory.
the head and shoulders are fine as well as the chest and stomach. The hips are VERY thin, She would have to have her pelvis bones broken to be that thin.
Her arms are to short, Its a very typical problem with drawings thats not readably apparent, it just gives you the feeling that something is off but you can't quite put you finger on it.
Well this is certainly more productive. I truly appreciate the pointers. Though it is hard to convey with text I'd like to say with honesty that there are a few things about the image that were intentional. It was mentioned that her arms being a bit too thin or short. I did use a picture reference of a live subject so Kagome's arms appear exactly as the subject in the reference pic. My shading sometimes doesn't always seem accurate according to believable light sourcing so it may look flat as it has been suggested. I don't really worry about it too much. I also used an exact head reference of Kagome's head from a screen capture so her eyes seem fine to me considering I chose it from three different examples. I'll not argue about her hips, perhaps they are too thin for her. However, it is my first piece of Kagome and I'm still weak in areas of anatomy so the next one may show improvement. I'm not concerned about people thinking I'm lazy or a bad artist because I didn't draw her hands in plain view whether I decided to hide them behind sliding doors or not. You are right about hands being difficult to draw but it's the artist's choice to show them or not. As I said before, I appreciate the pointers and will do my best to utilize them in future works.
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