These guys need to lighten up. Unfortunately, Angry Wahabism is Angry and Strong in Saudi-Arabia.

They've got angry wahhabism, you've got angry born-again christians and baptists and whatever the literalist strains call themselves these days. No difference really.

I mean, come on. "Should be killed in all cases". Someone's got a desert spider up their arse.

>>8536

Further proof of what I've always said - the world would be better off without religion. Ask yourselves this question: Would this have happened, if Saudi Arabia was a purely Atheist country?

I rest my case.

>>8562
Very probably, because people kill in the name of their beliefs, and killing in the name of religion is only one subset of all belief-based killings. Dawkins may advocate for a society freed from the shackles of religion but he is by no means an advocate of nihilism; quite the contrary, he strongly urges people to recognize the validity of evolution (i.e. to believe in something); and so long as people believe in something, then there is always the likely chance that someone will come along and kill somebody else over a disagreement.

Didn't South Park already go over this? The atheists in the future were still fighting wars, only now it was over whose name was the best name.

It isn't that the Saudi sheik is religious that he has issued this fanatical edict: it is simply that he is a fanatic. A fanatical member of Green Peace might advocate killing the Japanese whalers. A fanatical member of PETA might advocate killing chicken farm managers. A fanatical redneck may attempt to assassinate an ethnic minority leader. And a rational individual may kill -- with heavy heart -- in self-defense, to defend his wife, or to defend his country.

Beliefs, sir: people who kill do so in the name of beliefs.

How do they plan to "kill" a cartoon character, anyways?

>>8562

And how many were killed by the officially Atheist Soviets and Chinese? Hell even now they can't leave Fulan Gong alone.

I figure official Pastafarianism for the win.

>>8567
Acetone turpentine benzene, duh.

http://www.counterpunch.org/whitney09152008.html

"Presently, Paulson and New York Fed chief Timothy Geithner are pressing Wall Street banking elites to pony-up enough money to buy up Lehman's devalued real estate assets. The Fed's proposal is similar to Greenspan's rescue of Long-Term Management LP (LTCM) which roiled financial markets in the late 1990s. Paulson has signaled that there be NO government bailout like Bear Stearns when the Fed bought up $29 billion in mortgage-related assets. The Fed is tapped out, having already committed half of its balance sheet -- nearly $500 billion -- in repos through its "auction facilities" which have recently skyrocketed to record highs of $19 billion per week for the last 3 weeks. The crisis is deepening by the day. Similarly, the Treasury has hitched its wagon to Fannie and Freddie which expands the National Debt by another $5.2 trillion and seriously undermines the "full faith and credit" of the US in the process. Keep in mind, the biggest source of American power is its access to cheap capital via the US taxpayer. Paulson has now put that source of revenue at risk by nationalizing the housing industry and burdening the taxpayer with (potentially) astronomical future obligations, even though he knows full-well that the market could drop another 15 to 20 per cent before the end of 2010. Paulson's recklessness has doomed the country to years of struggle."

>>8507

Because we need more idiotic '-kuns' on this board.

Sage.

'kay I will change the name.

>>8518
I like the name. >>8510 just has to loosen up a bit.

>>8520

'Sup, Lucas-kun?

Are we seeing the death of US-style unfettered capitalism? I hope so. The Scandinavian social model, anyone?

>>8532

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>>8540
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Not the Scandinavian Model! I think if failed some time ago. Also, beer is too expensive over there.

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>>8540

When the government has to step in to bail out failing financial institutions, purely for the sake of keeping up the sham & the thin veil of 'confidence' in their market, to bolster their own failing economy, yes, I'd say this brand of capitalism is dying.

The very fact the govt are doing this goes against the whole point of capitalism. This proves how this form of capitalism (& govt intervention) is worse than communism. R.I.P. USA.

I for one welcome our Chinese overlords (who have been bailing you out to the tune of $1.5-2 Billion a day, just to keep USA's economy afloat). Better start learning Mandarin & Atheism, America.

WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?

America needs a serious dose of Reverse-McCarthyism. Basically being right-wing should be considered UnAmerican, with witchhunts & show-trials to destroy anyone remotely Republican - and the Religious Right (an oxymoron if there ever was one; when has a Fundy ever been RIGHT?!) considered Public Enemy No. 1 (with people given free reign to hunt down & eliminate all right-wing Xtians).

The Right are WRONG for the US.

>>8531
Thank you.

Absolutely wrong. Witch hunts and psuedo-patriotism are both fail. We used to live in a republic where people were allowed to believe in whatever they wanted. Now we have a political system that's turned into a blood sport and brother turns on brother over which team to cheer for. Neither side is un-American, the very idea of Un-American Thought is un-American.

I just want my republic back.

>political system that's turned into a blood sport and brother turns on brother over which team to cheer for

Sounds like the history of human existence to me.

>>8545
Ah yes back in the good old days of the founding fathers when everyone was in concord despite their conflicting politi-HOLY SHIT BURR DID YOU JUST FUCKING SHOOT HAMILTON? JESUS IS HE DEAD?

>>8545 I just want my republic back.
I assure you we are quite safe aboard this fully, operational battle station.

>>8539

Yeah, because it's better to be blind, eh?

The whale was then eaten.